PDS_VERSION_ID = PDS3 RECORD_TYPE = STREAM DATA_SET_ID = "MEX-M-MRS-1/2/3-PRM-0457-V1.0" STANDARD_DATA_PRODUCT_ID = ENB PRODUCER_ID = "SUE" PRODUCT_ID = "M00SUE0L1A_ENB_052050655_00.TXT" PRODUCT_CREATION_TIME = 2008-05-12T12:27:07.000 INSTRUMENT_HOST_ID = "MEX" OBJECT = TEXT PUBLICATION_DATE = 2006-08-21 NOTE = "MEX SUE Experimenter Notes" END_OBJECT = TEXT END From paetzold@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE Tue Jun 28 02:32:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from methusalix.geo.Uni-Koeln.DE (methusalix.geo.uni-koeln.de [134.95.160.200]) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j5S9Wjr05324 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from geo.uni-koeln.de (lutetia.geo.uni-koeln.de [134.95.160.186]) by methusalix.geo.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5S9Wjdv003797; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:32:45 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <42C1193C.16E2A9E8@geo.uni-koeln.de> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:32:44 +0200 From: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E4tzold?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [de]C-NSCPCD (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 CC: JValencia@jftl.jpl.nasa.gov, Sophia.M.No@jpl.nasa.gov, hannes.griebel@UniBw-Muenchen.de, joerg.selle@UniBw-Muenchen.de, tzegers@rssd.esa.int, silvia tellmann Subject: Re: MEX Bistatic Radar References: <200506272204.j5RM4tM01503@magellan.stanford.edu> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A68E37148762C2B2593CBB85" Content-Length: 1953 Status: RO Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. --------------A68E37148762C2B2593CBB85 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dick, the next BSR are on 6th July and 24th July in MTP15. Jorg's list shows in the last column the status and says requested for 6th and 24th July. Those are included in the PTR of MTP15. The BSR pass on 3rd July of MTP14 which says requested in the last column is not included in the PTR (Marsis commissioning) and therefore cancelled. Martin Martin Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 schrieb: > Tanja or anyone in MaRS Operations/Planning: > > It was my understanding that MARSIS commissioning and other > operations had pre-empted normal radio science until about > 20 July, so the bistatic radar observations scheduled for > 3 July and 6 July would not take place. > > Jose Valencia just called. These early July BSR's are still > in the DSN schedule and he wants to know whether BSR support > will be required. > > Could you confirm that these will or will not take place, > and also when the next BSR operation is expected? My > schedule (Joerg's xls dated 05-06-16) shows requests for > 21 July; then 26, 27, and 31 August; and 6 September. > > I think we have done a good job getting the BSR's into the > schedule early; but now we need to make sure the cancellation > notices get to the DSN when the observations are no longer > possible. > > Thanks, > Dick From Olivier.Reboud@esa.int Tue Jun 28 06:34:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from esacom89-int.esoc.esa.int (esacom89-ext.esoc.esa.int [131.176.86.4]) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j5SDYtr05515 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 06:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esacom53.esoc.esa.int (131-176-86-254.esoc.esa.int [131.176.86.254]) by esacom89-int.esoc.esa.int (8.13.3/8.13.3/ESA-External-v4.0) with ESMTP id j5SDYltB018051; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:34:48 GMT Received: from esocmta1.esa.int (esocnotesadmin-a.esoc.esa.int [131.176.72.27]) by esacom53.esoc.esa.int (8.12.10/8.12.10/ESA-Internal-v3.2) with ESMTP id j5SDYe2U023384; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:34:40 GMT To: Sophia M No Cc: Alan.Moorhouse@esa.int, DSN-MPSETD@jjpl.jpl.nasa.gov, Dwight.P.Holmes@jpl.nasa.gov, Erhard.Rabenau@esa.int, mexmps@esa.int, Michel.Denis@esa.int, Roberto.Ferretti@esa.int, Sibylle.Peschke@esa.int, mexpst@rssd.esa.int, rsimpson@magellan.stanford.edu Subject: Re: MEX Bistatic Radar on DOY 184 : Cancelled and DOY 187 : Confirmed MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.10 March 22, 2002 Message-ID: From: Olivier.Reboud@esa.int Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:33:48 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on esocmta1/esoc/ESA at 06/28/2005 15:34:40, Serialize complete at 06/28/2005 15:34:40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 004A94EFC125702E_=" Content-Length: 7375 Status: RO This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004A94EFC125702E_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Sophia, We can confirm to you that : the July 3rd (Doy 184) Bistatic is cancelled because this day is booked for the MARSIS commissioning, the Wednesday July 6th (Doy 187) Bistatic support is confirmed. I will do my best to prepare something, at least an email, for the Station support, as far as I know, the next one is scheduled on the Sunday 24th July (Doy 205) and not on the 21st of July (Doy202). For this last point, I put in copy MEX PST to correct me if I am wrong. Kind regards, Olivier Sophia M No 28/06/2005 00:34 To: Michel.Denis@esa.int, Olivier.Reboud@esa.int, Erhard.Rabenau@esa.int, Sibylle.Peschke@esa.int, Alan.Moorhouse@esa.int, Roberto.Ferretti@esa.int, mexmps@esa.int cc: Sophia.M.No@jpl.nasa.gov, DSN-MPSETD@jjpl.jpl.nasa.gov, Dwight.P.Holmes@jpl.nasa.gov Subject: MEX Bistatic Radar on DOY 184 and DOY 187 Dear Michel/Olivier, A question about the July 3rd and July 6th Bistatic was raised by Jose. Due to the Marsis commissioning, will these bistatic supports be deleted? Or are you planning on supporting these experiments? Please advise. A quick resposne would be greatly appreciated. Thank you and Kind regards, sophia >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:04:55 -0700 (PDT) >From: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 >Subject: MEX Bistatic Radar >To: JValencia@jftl.jpl.nasa.gov, Sophia.M.No@jpl.nasa.gov, > hannes.griebel@UniBw-Muenchen.de, joerg.selle@UniBw-Muenchen.de, > paetzold@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE, rsimpson@magellan.stanford.edu, tzegers@rssd.esa.int >X-Source-IP: smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.67.16.125] >X-Source-Sender: rsimpson@magellan.stanford.edu >X-JPL-spam-score: 0.00% >Original-recipient: rfc822;sno@mail.jpl.nasa.gov > > >Tanja or anyone in MaRS Operations/Planning: > >It was my understanding that MARSIS commissioning and other >operations had pre-empted normal radio science until about >20 July, so the bistatic radar observations scheduled for >3 July and 6 July would not take place. > >Jose Valencia just called. These early July BSR's are still >in the DSN schedule and he wants to know whether BSR support >will be required. > >Could you confirm that these will or will not take place, >and also when the next BSR operation is expected? My >schedule (Joerg's xls dated 05-06-16) shows requests for >21 July; then 26, 27, and 31 August; and 6 September. > >I think we have done a good job getting the BSR's into the >schedule early; but now we need to make sure the cancellation >notices get to the DSN when the observations are no longer >possible. > >Thanks, >Dick -- ============================================= Sophia No Jet Propulsion Laboratory Multi-mission DSN Allocation and Planning Team (MDAPT) Mars Express and Mars Exploration Rovers Email: Sophia.M.No@jpl.nasa.gov Phone:(818) 393-7841 FAX:(818) 393-3147 Cell Phone: (818) 653-9618 From rsimpson Tue Jun 28 09:50:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: (from rsimpson@localhost) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j5SGofY05979; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:50:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 Message-Id: <200506281650.j5SGofY05979@magellan.stanford.edu> To: JValencia@jftl.jpl.nasa.gov, gene.goltz@jpl.nasa.gov, rsimpson, sami.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov Subject: MEX Bistatic Radar Content-Length: 1943 Status: RO Jose: I have the message below from Olivier Reboud at ESA. I have a message from Martin Paetzold, our PI, with the same answer. It looks as though we need to prepare for 6 July at DSS 43 and 24 July at DSS 14. Sophia is checking with Olivier to see whether MEX still wants the pass on 3 July; but it will not be used for BSR. Sorry I didn't follow this more carefully. The MARSIS activities have thrown the schedule into confusion and there seems to be no place for me to get current information except by asking. Let me know if I can help. Dick - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From Olivier.Reboud@esa.int Tue Jun 28 06:34:56 2005 To: Sophia M No Cc: Alan.Moorhouse@esa.int, DSN-MPSETD@jjpl.jpl.nasa.gov, Dwight.P.Holmes@jpl.nasa.gov, Erhard.Rabenau@esa.int, mexmps@esa.int, Michel.Denis@esa.int, Roberto.Ferretti@esa.int, Sibylle.Peschke@esa.int, mexpst@rssd.esa.int, rsimpson@magellan.stanford.edu Subject: Re: MEX Bistatic Radar on DOY 184 : Cancelled and DOY 187 : Confirmed MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Olivier.Reboud@esa.int Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:33:48 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on esocmta1/esoc/ESA at 06/28/2005 15:34:40, Serialize complete at 06/28/2005 15:34:40 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004A94EFC125702E_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Sophia, We can confirm to you that : the July 3rd (Doy 184) Bistatic is cancelled because this day is booked for the MARSIS commissioning, the Wednesday July 6th (Doy 187) Bistatic support is confirmed. I will do my best to prepare something, at least an email, for the Station support, as far as I know, the next one is scheduled on the Sunday 24th July (Doy 205) and not on the 21st of July (Doy202). For this last point, I put in copy MEX PST to correct me if I am wrong. Kind regards, Olivier From rpischel@rssd.esa.int Tue Jun 28 12:11:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from rssd-gw.estec.esa.int (rssd-gw.estec.esa.int [131.176.188.1]) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j5SJBer09334 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.199] ([212.123.152.64]) by rssd-gw.estec.esa.int (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.01 (built Jun 24 2004)) with ESMTPSA id <0IIT003EK6NDKY20@rssd-gw.estec.esa.int> for rsimpson@magellan.stanford.edu; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:11:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:11:36 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Pischel?= Subject: Re: MEX Bistatic Radar on DOY 184 : Cancelled and DOY 187 : Confirmed In-reply-to: To: Olivier.Reboud@esa.int Cc: Sophia M No , Alan.Moorhouse@esa.int, DSN-MPSETD@jjpl.jpl.nasa.gov, Dwight.P.Holmes@jpl.nasa.gov, Erhard.Rabenau@esa.int, mexmps@esa.int, Michel.Denis@esa.int, Roberto.Ferretti@esa.int, Sibylle.Peschke@esa.int, mexpst@rssd.esa.int, rsimpson@magellan.stanford.edu Message-id: <1686E919-1453-473F-8CBF-B0B1F6D50470@rssd.esa.int> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by magellan.stanford.edu id j5SJBer09334 Content-Length: 3272 Status: R Dear Olivier This is to confirm that the next BSR is planned for DOY205 (orbit 1956) and NOT for DOY202. Best regards Rene Am 28. Jun 2005 um 15:33 schrieb Olivier.Reboud@esa.int: > > Dear Sophia, > > We can confirm to you that : > the July 3rd (Doy 184) Bistatic is cancelled because this day is > booked for the MARSIS commissioning, > the Wednesday July 6th (Doy 187) Bistatic support is confirmed. I > will do my best to prepare something, at least an email, for the > Station support, > as far as I know, the next one is scheduled on the Sunday 24th July > (Doy 205) and not on the 21st of July (Doy202). For this last > point, I put in copy MEX PST to correct me if I am wrong. > Kind regards, > > Olivier > > > Sophia M No > 28/06/2005 00:34 > > > To: Michel.Denis@esa.int, Olivier.Reboud@esa.int, > Erhard.Rabenau@esa.int, Sibylle.Peschke@esa.int, > Alan.Moorhouse@esa.int, Roberto.Ferretti@esa.int, mexmps@esa.int > cc: Sophia.M.No@jpl.nasa.gov, DSN- > MPSETD@jjpl.jpl.nasa.gov, Dwight.P.Holmes@jpl.nasa.gov > Subject: MEX Bistatic Radar on DOY 184 and DOY 187 > > > > Dear Michel/Olivier, > > A question about the July 3rd and July 6th Bistatic was > raised by Jose. Due to the Marsis commissioning, will these > bistatic supports be deleted? Or are you planning on > supporting these experiments? Please advise. > > A quick resposne would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you and Kind regards, > sophia > > >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:04:55 -0700 (PDT) > >From: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 > >Subject: MEX Bistatic Radar > >To: JValencia@jftl.jpl.nasa.gov, Sophia.M.No@jpl.nasa.gov, > > hannes.griebel@UniBw-Muenchen.de, joerg.selle@UniBw-Muenchen.de, > > paetzold@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE, rsimpson@magellan.stanford.edu, > tzegers@rssd.esa.int > >X-Source-IP: smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.67.16.125] > >X-Source-Sender: rsimpson@magellan.stanford.edu > >X-JPL-spam-score: 0.00% > >Original-recipient: rfc822;sno@mail.jpl.nasa.gov > > > > > >Tanja or anyone in MaRS Operations/Planning: > > > >It was my understanding that MARSIS commissioning and other > >operations had pre-empted normal radio science until about > >20 July, so the bistatic radar observations scheduled for > >3 July and 6 July would not take place. > > > >Jose Valencia just called. These early July BSR's are still > >in the DSN schedule and he wants to know whether BSR support > >will be required. > > > >Could you confirm that these will or will not take place, > >and also when the next BSR operation is expected? My > >schedule (Joerg's xls dated 05-06-16) shows requests for > >21 July; then 26, 27, and 31 August; and 6 September. > > > >I think we have done a good job getting the BSR's into the > >schedule early; but now we need to make sure the cancellation > >notices get to the DSN when the observations are no longer > >possible. > > > >Thanks, > >Dick > > > -- > ============================================= > Sophia No > Jet Propulsion Laboratory > Multi-mission DSN Allocation and Planning Team (MDAPT) > Mars Express and Mars Exploration Rovers > Email: Sophia.M.No@jpl.nasa.gov > Phone:(818) 393-7841 FAX:(818) 393-3147 > Cell Phone: (818) 653-9618 > From len.tyler@stanford.edu Mon Jul 25 11:08:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-roam.Stanford.EDU (smtp-roam.Stanford.EDU [171.64.10.152]) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j6PI8Tr15501 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [67.5.135.52] (0-1pool134-164.nas8.tukwila2.wa.us.da.qwest.net [67.5.134.164]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-roam.Stanford.EDU (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6PI8Mpf019189 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:08:26 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200507241731.j6OHVFq09495@magellan.stanford.edu> References: <200507241731.j6OHVFq09495@magellan.stanford.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:06:42 -0700 To: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 From: len tyler Subject: Re: MEX BSR 2005/205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Content-Length: 3422 Status: R Hi Dick, Well, it's a mixed message, but overall I gather that you are pleased. Still on the learning curve with the DSN. I've not heard anything from Steve. Thought that I would give him 'til next week to contact him directly. Staying busy here; mostly productive... -L >MEX BSR Enthusiasts, Supporters, and Others: > >The MEX bistatic radar experiment earlier today (2005/205; >orbit 1956) was well-executed and we observed real-time >echoes in all four receiving channels. The real-time SNR >estimate of the X-RCP echo peaked at 35 dB, a healthy 5 dB >over the previous strongest signal. The 2500 Hz echo width >is consistent with beam-limited scattering - the rms >surface roughness in the target area is 5 deg (or more), >which is a little surprising since "northern plains" have >generally appeared to be very smooth otherwise. This may, >in fact, be a science result that distinguishes the >bistatic radar results from other methods of surface >parameter estimation. Whatever is at this target is NOT >the same as we would find at other northern plains sites. > >There were a small number of operational problems related >to calibrating the system temperature; but these were noted >in real time, and corrective measures were taken which will >probably make their overall impact small. > >Unfortunately, the disk supporting RSR2 overflowed just >before the surface echoes appeared. Danny Kahan believes >data storage should automatically switch to a backup disk >in such cases, but that did not happen. Several actions >were taken to fix the problem, but nothing worked until we >restarted the RSR after moving some of the first disk files >elsewhere. This took about 15 minutes, by which time the >surface echoes were gone. > >Before the experiment we estimated that we had a factor of >2 buffer in disk space compared with our last experiment; >we also recorded conservatively compared with the last >experiment. It is not clear at this point where our >estimate went wrong; but we obviously need to develop a >more robust procedure for planning disk usage. Most of the >files on RSR disks belong to Cassini, which conducts long >observations approximately every 18 days. Cassini will >presumably have made some progress on resolving the >congestion before MEX BSR returns in about a month. > >So we should have excellent surface data in X-RCP and S- >RCP, but a 15 minute gap in the companion LCP files at >exactly the wrong time. It is possible to obtain estimates >of surface properties from single polarization data, but >the procedure is much more arduous than the polarization >ratios we have been using so far. In particular, we need >to model all parts of the radar equation absolutely; the >spacecraft antenna beam pattern and the surface radar cross >section function will be the most difficult. > >We have a graduate student at Stanford who has shown some >affinity and skill in working such problems. If we can >develop the necessary software in a reasonable amount of >time, the same techniques can be applied to the other data >we have collected - providing both an alternative >calculation of the surface dielectric constant but perhaps >also allowing some inferences about spatial distribution of >echo power. > >Dick -- G. Leonard Tyler 650/723-3535 Department of Electrical Engineering 650/723-9351 FAX 350 Serra Mall Stanford University, California 94305-4020 From Daniel.S.Kahan-121461@jpl.nasa.gov Mon Jul 25 12:22:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from nmta1.jpl.nasa.gov (nmta.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.214]) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j6PJMUr18875 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmta2.jpl.nasa.gov (xmta2.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.56]) by nmta1.jpl.nasa.gov (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j6PJMTSg006032; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:22:29 -0700 Received: from jpl.nasa.gov (eis-msg-065.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.102]) by xmta2.jpl.nasa.gov (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j6PJMSTb013824; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:22:28 -0700 Received: from [137.78.160.72] (Forwarded-For: [137.78.78.85]) by mailhost4.jpl.nasa.gov (mshttpd); Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:22:28 -0700 From: Daniel S Kahan To: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 Cc: gene.goltz@jpl.nasa.gov, sami.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov Message-ID: <1ffb571fd83c.1fd83c1ffb57@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:22:28 -0700 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: MEX BSR Disk Requirement X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Source-IP: eis-msg-065.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.102] X-Source-Sender: Daniel.S.Kahan-121461@jpl.nasa.gov X-AUTH: Internal IP Content-Length: 780 > I didn't see the numbers, but I thought we had been talking about > there being on the order of 10 GB available for RSR2 at the > beginning. Did we misread the available storage; or was it that > we expected the disks to swap and that didn't happen? Dick, The answer is that we misread the available storage by assuming that the disks would swap. i.e., there would have been enough storage, but in fact, we've now realized they were not supposed to switch. Furthermore, it's not a coincidence that we ran out when we did with no warning. As you saw after we restarted the RSR, a warning message occured about 20 minutes prior to 0% with only the 25k recording going, but by starting the 100k when we did, there was probably not much time for the warning to appear. Danny From rsimpson Mon Jul 25 11:59:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: (from rsimpson@localhost) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j6PIx1018294; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:59:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 Message-Id: <200507251859.j6PIx1018294@magellan.stanford.edu> To: daniel.s.kahan@jpl.nasa.gov, gene.goltz@jpl.nasa.gov, rsimpson, sami.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov Subject: MEX BSR Disk Requirement Content-Length: 870 For future reference MEX BSR needs slightly less than 1.5 GB/hour when recording 4 channels at 25 kHz. For a nominal pass with 90 minutes of pre-cal, 60 minutes of BCAL and SLEW, 60 minutes of BSR, 60 minutes of SLEW and BCAL, and 60 minutes of post-cal the total would be 8.25 GB. An hour of 100 kHz recording would add 6 GB This gives a grand total which could be rounded up to 15 GB for everything or rounded down to 7 GB for each of two RSR's. Yesterday we ran out of disk after 170 minutes of 25 kHz recording and 6 minutes of 100 kHz recording - or what should have been a total of 2.4 GB on RSR2. I didn't see the numbers, but I thought we had been talking about there being on the order of 10 GB available for RSR2 at the beginning. Did we misread the available storage; or was it that we expected the disks to swap and that didn't happen? Thanks, Dick From rsimpson Mon Jul 25 12:27:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: (from rsimpson@localhost) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j6PJRLH19049; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:27:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 Message-Id: <200507251927.j6PJRLH19049@magellan.stanford.edu> To: Daniel.S.Kahan-121461@jpl.nasa.gov Subject: Re: MEX BSR Disk Requirement Cc: rsimpson Content-Length: 257 Status: RO >The answer is that we misread the available storage ... >a warning message occured about 20 minutes ... >not much time for the warning to appear. And we were definitely preoccupied with other things. Thanks. Even though unfortunate, it makes sense. From Daniel.S.Kahan-121461@jpl.nasa.gov Wed Jul 27 17:35:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from nmta2.jpl.nasa.gov (nmta2.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.215]) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j6S0Zkr13719 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmta3.jpl.nasa.gov (xmta3.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.111]) by nmta2.jpl.nasa.gov (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j6S0ZjHn009441 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:35:45 -0700 Received: from jpl.nasa.gov (eis-msg-065.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.102]) by xmta3.jpl.nasa.gov (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j6S0Zjqd008384 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:35:45 -0700 Received: from [137.78.160.72] (Forwarded-For: [137.78.78.85]) by mailhost4.jpl.nasa.gov (mshttpd); Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:35:45 -0700 From: Daniel S Kahan To: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 Message-ID: <2b01482aef99.2aef992b0148@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:35:45 -0700 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: DOY 205 X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Source-IP: eis-msg-065.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.102] X-Source-Sender: Daniel.S.Kahan-121461@jpl.nasa.gov X-AUTH: Internal IP Content-Length: 352 Status: RO Well, we deleted that. That was the first thing we did to make room on the disk. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 4:51 pm Subject: Re: DOY 205 > > >And now the 100k are there (ending with 4, only 2 files)... > > Not the 6 minutes we collected on LCP? > From Daniel.S.Kahan-121461@jpl.nasa.gov Thu Jul 28 09:36:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from nmta1.jpl.nasa.gov (nmta.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.214]) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j6SGajr15615 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmta2.jpl.nasa.gov (xmta2.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.56]) by nmta1.jpl.nasa.gov (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j6SGaiXM004932 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:36:45 -0700 Received: from jpl.nasa.gov (eis-msg-065.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.102]) by xmta2.jpl.nasa.gov (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j6SGaisI005948 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:36:44 -0700 Received: from [137.78.160.72] (Forwarded-For: [137.78.78.85]) by mailhost4.jpl.nasa.gov (mshttpd); Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:36:44 -0700 From: Daniel S Kahan To: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 Message-ID: <2cb0192ca993.2ca9932cb019@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:36:44 -0700 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: DOY 205 X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Source-IP: eis-msg-065.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.102] X-Source-Sender: Daniel.S.Kahan-121461@jpl.nasa.gov X-AUTH: Internal IP Content-Length: 346 Status: R > I guess I might have made a different choice. But it's done. My recollection is that what we deleted was pretty much before we saw the echo anyways. I guess you'll know for sure when you look at the RCP. > The 100 kHz data will also go onto the DVD. > Probably won't finish until tomorrow. > Okay, just let us know whenever it's done. From rsimpson Thu Jul 28 09:48:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: (from rsimpson@localhost) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j6SGm1q15651; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:48:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 Message-Id: <200507281648.j6SGm1q15651@magellan.stanford.edu> To: Daniel.S.Kahan-121461@jpl.nasa.gov Subject: Re: DOY 205 Cc: gene.goltz@jpl.nasa.gov, rsimpson, sami.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov Content-Length: 718 Status: R >My recollection is that what we deleted was pretty much before we saw >the echo anyways. I guess you'll know for sure when you look at the RCP. True; but there's the question of whether an echo was present before we spotted it in real time and whether it might have been outside the 25 kHz window. On the basis of the observed frequency drift in X-RCP, the echo (if visible) would have been outside the 25 kHz window until about 11:06. The data show the X-RCP sample power rising abruptly beginning at about 11:07:50 and the S-RCP power rising 30-35 seconds earlier. On that basis, I think we're pretty safe assuming there was nothing in the LCP 100 kHz data before 11:03:36, when RSR2 quit.