PDS_VERSION_ID = PDS3 RECORD_TYPE = STREAM DATA_SET_ID = "MEX-M-MRS-1/2/3-EXT1-0988-V1.0" STANDARD_DATA_PRODUCT_ID = ENB PRODUCER_ID = "SUE" PRODUCT_ID = "M00SUE0L1A_ENB_061500145_00.TXT" PRODUCT_CREATION_TIME = 2009-05-13T07:36:49.000 INSTRUMENT_HOST_ID = "MEX" OBJECT = TEXT PUBLICATION_DATE = 2007-11-29 NOTE = "MEX SUE Experimenter Notes" END_OBJECT = TEXT END From rsimpson Tue May 30 16:59:57 2006 Return-Path: Received: (from rsimpson@localhost) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p2+Sun/8.11.7) id k4UNxvd22479; Tue, 30 May 2006 16:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:59:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 Message-Id: <200605302359.k4UNxvd22479@magellan.stanford.edu> To: Daniel.S.Kahan@jpl.nasa.gov, H.J.Walker@rl.ac.uk, JValencia@jftl.jpl.nasa.gov, JVelasco@jftl.jpl.nasa.gov, John.Reynolds@esa.int, Michel.Denis@esa.int, Olivier.Reboud@esa.int, Ricardo.G.Torres@jpl.nasa.gov, Sophia.M.No@jpl.nasa.gov, art.freiley@jpl.nasa.gov, audenrie@geo.uni-koeln.de, bernd.haeusler@unibw-muenchen.de, carone@geo.uni-koeln.de, dhinson@stanford.edu, dwight.holmes@jpl.nasa.gov, fred.jansen@esa.int, gene.goltz@jpl.nasa.gov, hahn@geo.uni-koeln.de, john.c.klose@jpl.nasa.gov, jtwicken@stanford.edu, kuerten@geo.uni-koeln.de, len.tyler@stanford.edu, mexmps@esa.int, paetzold@geo.uni-koeln.de, rene.pischel@rssd.esa.int, rsimpson, sami.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov, stanzel@geo.uni-koeln.de, thomas.w.thompson@jpl.nasa.gov, tzegers@rssd.esa.int, walter@geo.uni-koeln.de Subject: MEX BSR DOY 150 Content-Length: 721 Status: R The Mars Express bistatic radar experiment earlier today appears to have been successful. The were minor problems with the pre-cal and post-cal, but all were corrected in real time and there should be no impact on the science value of the data. There were no obvious real time surface echoes; but displays showed hints of an X-LCP echo near the middle and at the end of the one hour specular point track. Considering the extreme range to Mars (more than 2 AU) and our a priori knowledge of the target (sometimes called "Stealth"), the difficulty in detecting a real time echo is not surprising. We are optimistic that echoes will be detected in the detailed processing which will be conducted at Stanford. From Daniel.S.Kahan-121461@jpl.nasa.gov Tue May 30 16:57:18 2006 Return-Path: Received: from nmta1.jpl.nasa.gov (nmta.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.214]) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p2+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id k4UNvIL22440 for ; Tue, 30 May 2006 16:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmta2.jpl.nasa.gov (xmta2.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.56]) by nmta1.jpl.nasa.gov (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k4UNvIwf002286; Tue, 30 May 2006 16:57:18 -0700 Received: from jpl.nasa.gov (eis-msg-065.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.102]) by xmta2.jpl.nasa.gov (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k4UNvIgR028633; Tue, 30 May 2006 16:57:18 -0700 Received: from [137.78.160.72] (Forwarded-For: [137.78.78.85]) by mailhost4.jpl.nasa.gov (mshttpd); Tue, 30 May 2006 16:57:18 -0700 From: Daniel S Kahan To: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 Cc: Gene Goltz Message-ID: <35e44d35e444.35e44435e44d@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:57:18 -0700 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: MEX 2006/150 Bi-Static Radar Data X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Source-IP: eis-msg-065.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.102] X-Source-Sender: Daniel.S.Kahan-121461@jpl.nasa.gov X-AUTH: Internal IP Content-Length: 1121 Status: RO Dick, MEX Bi-Static Radar RSR open-loop data from DOY 150 at DSS-14 (pass 1094) have been played back to the TDS as follows: - X-band, RCP, 1-way - RSR2B3 - 25 kHz, 16 bits - start = 01:45:00 - stop = 06:01:59 - SFDUs = 61,680 and: - S-band, RCP, 1-way - RSR2A3 - 25 kHz, 16 bits - start = 01:45:00 - stop = 06:01:59 - SFDUs = 61,680 and: - X-band, LCP, 1-way - RSR1B3 - 25 kHz, 16 bits - start = 01:45:00 - stop = 06:01:59 - SFDUs = 61,680 and: - S-band, LCP, 1-way - RSR1A3 - 25 kHz, 16 bits - start = 01:45:00 - stop = 06:01:59 - SFDUs = 61,680 and: - X-band, RCP, 1-way - RSR2B4 - 100 kHz, 16 bits - start = 03:56:00 - stop = 04:58:58 - SFDUs = 75,580 and: - S-band, RCP, 1-way - RSR2A4 - 100 kHz, 16 bits - start = 03:56:00 - stop = 04:58:58 - SFDUs = 75,580 and: - X-band, LCP, 1-way - RSR1B4 - 100 kHz, 16 bits - start = 03:56:00 - stop = 04:58:58 - SFDUs = 75,580 and: - S-band, LCP, 1-way - RSR1A4 - 100 kHz, 16 bits - start = 03:56:00 - stop = 04:58:58 - SFDUs = 75,580 These data should now be available for you to query. Regards, Danny From JValencia@jftl.jpl.nasa.gov Wed May 31 14:02:08 2006 Return-Path: Received: from jftl.jpl.nasa.gov (jftl.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.207.22]) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p2+Sun/8.11.7) with SMTP id k4VL28L02704 for ; Wed, 31 May 2006 14:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jftl.jpl.nasa.gov (Not Verified[128.149.207.21]) by jftl.jpl.nasa.gov with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,100) id ; Wed, 31 May 2006 14:04:10 -0700 Received: by jftl-mm.jpl.nasa.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 31 May 2006 14:02:11 -0700 Message-ID: <12373B687CF8324F843BE0CA103AA6F4058F3013@jftl-mm.jpl.nasa.gov> From: "Valencia, Jose" To: "'Dick Simpson 650-723-3525'" Cc: DSN-MPSETD , "gene.goltz."@jpl.nasa.gov Subject: RE: MEX BSR DOY 150 Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 14:02:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C684F5.6C0C1940" Content-Length: 7848 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C684F5.6C0C1940 Content-Type: text/plain Hello Dick, We appreciate the feedback. For the next BSR support I will add a line of text to the briefing message in bold letters directing operations to not use time stacked directives. I think that by discouraging the use of time stacked directives we may improve the process. Thanks Jose Valencia -----Original Message----- From: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 [mailto:rsimpson@magellan.stanford.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 1:27 PM To: JValencia@jftl.jpl.nasa.gov; "gene.goltz."@jpl.nasa.gov; rsimpson@magellan.stanford.edu Subject: MEX BSR DOY 150 Jose: The pre-cal and post-cal anomalies that I have found in the MEX BSR data from DOY 150 are as follows: 01:46 Pre-cal Step 5: The X-RCP noise diode came on about 4 minutes early; this was a DTT configuration step, and the noise diode should not have been enabled until about 01:50. We did not notice this in real time. The NMC log indicates DC03 would have been controlling the X-Band noise diodes; I see nothing in the log that would explain what happened. 02:02 Pre-cal Step 8: The X-LCP noise diode came on about 3 minutes early. In this step the XR noise diode was disabled and the DTT was reconfigured. The X-LCP noise diode should not have been enabled until 02:05. Gene Goltz noticed this and questioned the station, but they confirmed that the noise diode was disabled until 02:05. The NMC log shows a delayed command at 02:02 to enable the XL noise diode at 02:05. If this OD was executed immediately instead of waiting until 02:05, that would explain what we saw. 05:40 Post-cal Step 5: X-LCP noise diode was disabled, and the S-LCP diode was enabled; but all channels also went to sky, which was not supposed to happen until Step 6. Everyone noticed this, and the station was taking corrective action before Gene Goltz called. It looks from the NMC log as though the operator accidently combined steps 5 and 6. This looks like a VERY clean data set. With the exception of the problems noted above, all of the state changes were very crisp, the gain on all of the channels looks very stable, and there are no obvious weather effects in the data. Because of the redundancies built into our procedures, we should have no problem working around the anomalies above. Of course, anything to improve on even this good performance is appreciated. Regards, Dick From rsimpson Sat Jun 3 23:53:28 2006 Return-Path: Received: (from rsimpson@localhost) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p2+Sun/8.11.7) id k546rQx28331; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 23:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 23:53:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 Message-ID: <28330.1149404007@magellan> Mime-Version: 1.0 To: paetzold@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE, walter@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE, audenrie@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE, kuerten@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE, hahn@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE, stanzel@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE, carone@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE, walter@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE, bernd.haeusler@unibw-muenchen.de, sami.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov, gene.goltz@jpl.nasa.gov, Daniel.S.Kahan@jpl.nasa.gov, dwight.holmes@jpl.nasa.gov, len.tyler@stanford.edu, dhinson@stanford.edu, jtwicken@stanford.edu, tzegers@rssd.esa.int, fred.jansen@esa.int, rene.pischel@rssd.esa.int, John.Reynolds@esa.int, Michel.Denis@esa.int, Olivier.Reboud@esa.int, H.J.Walker@rl.ac.uk, mexmps@esa.int, JValencia@jftl.jpl.nasa.gov, JVelasco@jftl.jpl.nasa.gov, Ricardo.G.Torres@jpl.nasa.gov, Sophia.M.No@jpl.nasa.gov, thomas.w.thompson@jpl.nasa.gov, art.freiley@jpl.nasa.gov, john.c.klose@jpl.nasa.gov, rsimpson Subject: MEX BSR 2006/150 update Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-" Content-Length: 1842174 Status: RO This is a MIME encoded message. Decode it with "munpack" or any other MIME reading software. Mpack/munpack is available via anonymous FTP in ftp.andrew.cmu.edu:pub/mpack/ --- MEX BSR Enthusiasts: Attached (in a zip file, but renamed zap to confuse mail handlers which do not like ZIP files) are summary figures showing spectra from the MEX BSR specular track experiment on 2006/150 over Stealth. The new image format follows from some suggestions by Essam Marouf. display_spc_x.jpg is a 4-panel plot showing X-RCP echo power (upper left), X-LCP echo power (lower left), cross spectrum magnitude (upper right), and cross spectrum phase (lower right). There are 66 spectra in the time dimension, each averaged over 60 seconds. The variable background noise level has been removed from the two power plots; Tsys increased 4-6K over the course of the 66 min observation as the DSS 14 antenna moved toward the western horizon. The filter roll-off (0-3 and 22-25 kHz) is not plotted. Units are radians [-pi pi] for the phase plot. Units for the other three are zeptowatts (10^-21 w) per frequency bin (24 Hz) and the colors are stretched automatically to cover [ min max]. Although the echo becomes very weak in the middle of the experiment, it is possible to imagine that something is present in both polarizations throughout. Because of the continuous track (rather than the single spot measurements made with inertial pointing), we can see such variations as we cross Stealth. Maximum XL echo power (integrated over 180 bins) is 64.87 zw; maximum XR echo power is 48.86 zw. See the "health" report distributed yesterday to a smaller list for inferences about dielectric constant (based on 5 minute averages of power) over the first half of the experiment. display_spc_s.jpg is a 4-panel plot showing the corresponding S-Band quantities. Because the leakage direct signal at about 15 kHz would dominate the amplitude scalings, the power plot colors have been forced to cover the range [-1 1] and the cross-spectrum magnitude has been forced to fit [0 1]. If there were an echo at S-Band it should be 3-7 kHz below the direct signal; I see nothing. These figures were derived directly from the SPC (level 2) data file. I am considering adding these plots as a "browse SPC" data type in the archive. They would be in a BRS directory and have file names ending in .JPG. Each file would have its own label to simply transfer to the PSA. These are preliminary results provided as feedback to people involved in planning and executing the experiment. Please do not forward them beyond the initial distribution without permission of the MaRS Team Leader Martin Paetzold. Comments are invited. Dick --- Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="dispspc.zap" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dispspc.zap" Content-MD5: 84yZZPd8Nkb61b1nuLHO+w== UEsDBBQAAAAIAI8uxDTaVZvtY74KAL8DCwARABUAZGlzcGxheV9zcGNfcy5qcGdVVAkAAx51 gkQu6IBEVXgEABwEKQDs/QdUU933NopGUVEQUOmgRAVEqSpdIFFREBEQFJAaFelCRDoEYqNI ... From len.tyler@stanford.edu Sun Jun 4 22:39:42 2006 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-roam.Stanford.EDU (smtp-roam.Stanford.EDU [171.64.10.152]) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p2+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id k555dgF22818 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 22:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [67.5.134.187] (0-1pool135-66.nas8.tukwila2.wa.us.da.qwest.net [67.5.135.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-roam.Stanford.EDU (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k555dJrn012246 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 4 Jun 2006 22:39:40 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <28330.1149404007@magellan> References: <28330.1149404007@magellan> Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 10:45:38 -0700 To: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 From: len tyler Subject: Re: MEX BSR 2006/150 update Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Content-Length: 3134 Status: RO X looks great! Absence of S in the presence of X must be telling us something! Thanks for sending there along. See you on Thursday. -Len >MEX BSR Enthusiasts: > > Attached (in a zip file, but renamed zap to confuse mail handlers which >do not like ZIP files) are summary figures showing spectra from the MEX >BSR specular track experiment on 2006/150 over Stealth. The new image >format follows from some suggestions by Essam Marouf. > > display_spc_x.jpg is a 4-panel plot showing X-RCP echo power (upper left), >X-LCP echo power (lower left), cross spectrum magnitude (upper right), and >cross spectrum phase (lower right). There are 66 spectra in the time >dimension, each averaged over 60 seconds. > > The variable background noise level has been removed from the two power >plots; Tsys increased 4-6K over the course of the 66 min observation as >the DSS 14 antenna moved toward the western horizon. The filter roll-off >(0-3 and 22-25 kHz) is not plotted. Units are radians [-pi pi] for the >phase plot. Units for the other three are zeptowatts (10^-21 w) per >frequency bin (24 Hz) and the colors are stretched automatically to cover >[ min max]. > > Although the echo becomes very weak in the middle of the experiment, it >is possible to imagine that something is present in both polarizations >throughout. Because of the continuous track (rather than the single spot >measurements made with inertial pointing), we can see such variations as >we cross Stealth. > > Maximum XL echo power (integrated over 180 bins) is 64.87 zw; >maximum XR echo power is 48.86 zw. See the "health" report distributed >yesterday to a smaller list for inferences about dielectric constant >(based on 5 minute averages of power) over the first half of the >experiment. > > display_spc_s.jpg is a 4-panel plot showing the corresponding S-Band >quantities. Because the leakage direct signal at about 15 kHz would >dominate the amplitude scalings, the power plot colors have been forced >to cover the range [-1 1] and the cross-spectrum magnitude has been forced >to fit [0 1]. If there were an echo at S-Band it should be 3-7 kHz below >the direct signal; I see nothing. > > These figures were derived directly from the SPC (level 2) data file. >I am considering adding these plots as a "browse SPC" data type in the >archive. They would be in a BRS directory and have file names ending in >.JPG. Each file would have its own label to simply transfer to the PSA. > > These are preliminary results provided as feedback to people involved >in planning and executing the experiment. Please do not forward them >beyond the initial distribution without permission of the MaRS Team Leader >Martin Paetzold. > > Comments are invited. > >Dick > >Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="dispspc.zap" >Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dispspc.zap" >Content-MD5: 84yZZPd8Nkb61b1nuLHO+w== > >Attachment converted: len/g4pb:dispspc.zap ( / ) (00483DEC) -- G. Leonard Tyler 650/723-3535 Department of Electrical Engineering 650/723-9351 FAX 350 Serra Mall Stanford University, California 94305-4020 From rsimpson Sun Jun 4 16:31:53 2006 Return-Path: Received: (from rsimpson@localhost) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p2+Sun/8.11.7) id k54NVrx07110; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 16:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 16:31:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 Message-Id: <200606042331.k54NVrx07110@magellan.stanford.edu> To: bernd.haeusler@unibw-muenchen.de, carone@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE, paetzold@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE, rsimpson, stanzel@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE Subject: Re: MEX BSR 2006/150 update Content-Length: 2115 Status: RO >These figures were derived directly from the SPC (level 2) data file. I have transferred the SPC to Cologne; you will find it in jupiter:/raid0/stanford/SPC/6150035A.SPC I have about 20 SPC files now (a small number still need to be generated). Only a small number have been transferred to Cologne. But I can send them all if you want to look at them (these are the ASCII files, not the new plots). >I am considering adding these plots as a "browse SPC" data type in the >archive. They would be in a BRS directory and have file names ending in >.JPG. Each file would have its own label to simply transfer to the PSA. You can find examples in jupiter:/raid0/stanford/BRS from the 2006/150 bistatic radar experiment. These files differ from the ones I sent via e-mail yesterday. I did not detrend the noise baseline, so you can see the RCP and LCP power rising as a function of time. I also did not use the custom scaling; this mostly affects the S-RCP and S-LCP power, which are now scaled to accommodate the amplitude of the leakage direct signal. When I have the opportunity, I will probably apply both the detrending and the custom scaling to the BRS files which would go into the archive. But this gives you an idea of what happens when both are turned off. The software also produces Postscript versions of both plots, which appear to be of higher quality. I believe you need the JPEG format for PSA, so I'm throwing away the Postscripts. I have generated hard copy plots from most of the SPC files; but the only BRS files have been generated from the 2006/150 SPC. I will make more, but it will take some time to enter the scaling information and I will probably do that as I work through the archiving. Let me know if you have suggestions for making the BRS more useful or more compatible with your system. Of course, we will need to develop a file naming convention for the new data type. Note that the SPC comes from FOUR source RSR files; each BRS comes from a single SPC, but each BRS can be traced to TWO RSR's. From JVelasco@jftl.jpl.nasa.gov Mon Jul 10 09:33:30 2006 Return-Path: Received: from jftl.jpl.nasa.gov (jftl.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.207.22]) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p2+Sun/8.11.7) with SMTP id k6AGXUF14683 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jftl.jpl.nasa.gov (Not Verified[128.149.207.21]) by jftl.jpl.nasa.gov with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,100) id ; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:35:40 -0700 Received: by jftl-mm.jpl.nasa.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <3TJ78X0G>; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:33:31 -0700 Message-ID: <88AB5DE488E2F84493F94DF423EE26D029DE29@jftl-mm.jpl.nasa.gov> From: "Velasco, Jesse" To: "'Dick Simpson 650-723-3525'" , "Velasco, Jesse" , daniel.s.kahan@jpl.nasa.gov, gene.goltz@jpl.nasa.gov Cc: DSN-MPSETD Subject: RE: DSS 14 AZ-EL for MEX BSR 2006/150 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:33:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6A43E.936C42E0" Content-Length: 4294 Status: R This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6A43E.936C42E0 Content-Type: text/plain Dick, Our antenna Operations Engineer reported that a monitor communication failure may have occurred with the Antenna Pointing Controller. AZ and EL information should be published every two minutes. I will check with the station to see if the log is still available locally. Since this support was more then 30 day, there is a good chance that the file may have been automatically deleted. I will keep you advised of the status of the file. Thanks, Jesse -----Original Message----- From: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 [mailto:rsimpson@magellan.stanford.edu] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 7:46 PM To: JVelasco@jftl.jpl.nasa.gov; daniel.s.kahan@jpl.nasa.gov; gene.goltz@jpl.nasa.gov Subject: DSS 14 AZ-EL for MEX BSR 2006/150 Jesse: For the bistatic radar experiments, I get the 70-m antenna azimuth and elevation from the NMC log. That helps me understand what the background noise power is doing, particularly at low elevation angles. For the experiment on 2006/150 I downloaded the NMC file 061500051_L01_1404101094. The AZ/EL data appear roughly every two minutes. But the last block is at 03:09:09, and I don't see any after that. Since our experiment ran from 03:57 to 04:48, this isn't very helpful. Is there any explanation for this? And is there any way to get the AZ-EL readings from another source? I don't need many points (one every 20-30 minutes would be fine). Thanks, Dick From rsimpson Thu Jul 13 15:46:02 2006 Return-Path: Received: (from rsimpson@localhost) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p2+Sun/8.11.7) id k6DMk1F18493; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:46:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 Message-Id: <200607132246.k6DMk1F18493@magellan.stanford.edu> To: JVelasco@jftl.jpl.nasa.gov Subject: RE: DSS 14 AZ-EL for MEX BSR 2006/150 Cc: rsimpson Content-Length: 684 Status: RO >The station may not be able to retrieve the nmc log locally. Don't give up >hope yet. The station is seeking help on all possible methods before they >declare them officially lost. Hi, Jesse: I'm not sure this is worth hours of searching. I can probably make some guesses about azimuth and elevation based on experiments we conducted earlier. I'm willing to accept the fact that this is more than 30 days after the pass if you think the station could put the search time to better use. In general, though, we would expect this information to be in the NMC log. There was just some malfunction on the day in question and it didn't make it. Thanks, Dick From Daniel.S.Kahan-121461@jpl.nasa.gov Fri Jul 14 12:20:10 2006 Return-Path: Received: from nmta3.jpl.nasa.gov (nmta.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.108]) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.7p2+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id k6EJKAF15331 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmta1.jpl.nasa.gov (xmta1.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.144]) by nmta3.jpl.nasa.gov (Switch-3.1.9/Switch-3.1.9) with ESMTP id k6EJKA7d003424 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:20:10 -0700 Received: from jpl.nasa.gov (eis-msg-065.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.102]) by xmta1.jpl.nasa.gov (Switch-3.1.9/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k6EJK9HP024716 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:20:09 -0700 Received: from [137.78.160.72] (Forwarded-For: [137.78.78.85]) by mailhost4.jpl.nasa.gov (mshttpd); Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:20:09 -0700 From: Daniel S Kahan To: "'Dick Simpson 650-723-3525'" Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:20:09 -0700 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: RE: DSS 14 AZ-EL for MEX BSR 2006/150 X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Source-IP: eis-msg-065.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.102] X-Source-Sender: Daniel.S.Kahan-121461@jpl.nasa.gov X-AUTH: Internal IP Content-Length: 2747 Status: RO Dick, We have software to calculate AZ-EL from station location and the reconstructed spacecraft trajectory. Would it help if I generated a file? Danny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Velasco, Jesse" Date: Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:21 pm Subject: RE: DSS 14 AZ-EL for MEX BSR 2006/150 > > Dick, > > The station may not be able to retrieve the nmc log locally. Don't > give up > hope yet. The station is seeking help on all possible methods > before they > declare them officially lost. > > Thanks, > Jesse > > -----Original Message----- > From: Velasco, Jesse > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:59 PM > To: Velasco, Jesse; 'Dick Simpson 650-723-3525'; > 'daniel.s.kahan@jpl.nasa.gov'; 'gene.goltz@jpl.nasa.gov' > Cc: DSN-MPSETD > Subject: RE: DSS 14 AZ-EL for MEX BSR 2006/150 > > > Dick, > > The station is still checking locally for those nmc logs. I should > knowsomething by tomorrow. I will keep you posted. > > Thanks, > Jesse > > -----Original Message----- > From: Velasco, Jesse > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 9:33 AM > To: 'Dick Simpson 650-723-3525'; Velasco, Jesse; > daniel.s.kahan@jpl.nasa.gov; gene.goltz@jpl.nasa.gov > Cc: DSN-MPSETD > Subject: RE: DSS 14 AZ-EL for MEX BSR 2006/150 > > > Dick, > > Our antenna Operations Engineer reported that a monitor communication > failure may have occurred with the Antenna Pointing Controller. AZ > and EL > information should be published every two minutes. > > I will check with the station to see if the log is still available > locally.Since this support was more then 30 day, there is a good > chance that the > file may have been automatically deleted. I will keep you advised > of the > status of the file. > > Thanks, > Jesse > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dick Simpson 650-723-3525 [rsimpson@magellan.stanford.edu] > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 7:46 PM > To: JVelasco@jftl.jpl.nasa.gov; daniel.s.kahan@jpl.nasa.gov; > gene.goltz@jpl.nasa.gov > Subject: DSS 14 AZ-EL for MEX BSR 2006/150 > > > Jesse: > > For the bistatic radar experiments, I get the 70-m antenna > azimuth and elevation from the NMC log. That helps me > understand what the background noise power is doing, > particularly at low elevation angles. > > For the experiment on 2006/150 I downloaded the NMC file > 061500051_L01_1404101094. The AZ/EL data appear roughly > every two minutes. But the last block is at 03:09:09, and > I don't see any after that. Since our experiment ran from > 03:57 to 04:48, this isn't very helpful. > > Is there any explanation for this? And is there any way > to get the AZ-EL readings from another source? I don't > need many points (one every 20-30 minutes would be fine). > > Thanks, > Dick >